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would bashar al assad use them? >> it's an important question. i'm wondering, erin, whether this was a regime decision. you know, this activity surrounding chemical weapons, or they saw a local commander, perhaps, doing some things. and the international community wanted to send a message to everybody, including the assad regime, saying that one of your local commanders may be getting out of line here and may use these weapons. you better crack down on it. so it's not quite clear. the government knows more than we do but outside, it's not quite clear exactly what they were trying to get at here. obviously, stop the use of chemical weapons, but who was going to use them? what their intent was, we still don't know that outside. >> right. and certainly he i would imagine how secure they are considering that rebels have links to al qaeda or extremist groups. there's lots of risks. and sources are saying that his mood may be at this point, look, i'm going to end up being killed anyway. if i try to leave, i'm going to be killed by my own people and the
would bashar al assad use them? >> it's an important question. i'm wondering, erin, whether this was a regime decision. you know, this activity surrounding chemical weapons, or they saw a local commander, perhaps, doing some things. and the international community wanted to send a message to everybody, including the assad regime, saying that one of your local commanders may be getting out of line here and may use these weapons. you better crack down on it. so it's not quite clear. the...
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her father says she thought the rebel fighters with us were assad's forces. despite his efforts to reassure her, she's still anxious and with reason. he was shot in the arm as a checkpoint. the bullet was going to hit my daughter, he tells us. but i had just put my arm around her. she, just 4 years old, blinks hard, yes. she ended up drenched in her father's blood. as gunfire rings out again, her father takes away the bullet casings she's collected. nearby, a woman who doesn't want to be filmed takes me aside. sometimes i want to die, rather than live like this, she whispers. >> arwa damon is joining us now from northern syria. arwa, what about these reports -- you've heard the secretary of state talking about it -- that the syrian regime may be moving around their chemical weapons. if they are, that's a red line that the u.s. will have to deal with. are the rebels where you are concerned that bashar al assad's regime could use chemical weapons against them? >> reporter: they most certainly are, wolf. first of all, they believe that this regime will do just a
her father says she thought the rebel fighters with us were assad's forces. despite his efforts to reassure her, she's still anxious and with reason. he was shot in the arm as a checkpoint. the bullet was going to hit my daughter, he tells us. but i had just put my arm around her. she, just 4 years old, blinks hard, yes. she ended up drenched in her father's blood. as gunfire rings out again, her father takes away the bullet casings she's collected. nearby, a woman who doesn't want to be filmed...
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united states and nato agreeing to deploy patriot weapons and to thwart an aso-called by assad. the missile systems to be positioned near the syria. his staff denies that and estimates if they were deploy troops, it requires 75,000 of the troops in a full ground invasionn order seize the chemical weapon stockpile. fox news confirming they were not ordered to draft the consideration of such a mission. secretary of state clinton is nonetheless talking very tough calling for assad to step down as the obama administration has done for the past 15 months, b refusing, still, to detail which consequences those would be. >> we will explore with like-minded countries what more we can do to bring the conflict to an end, but that will require the assad regime making the decision to participate in a political transition, ending the violence against its own people, and we hope thathey do so because we believe, as you know, that their fall is inevitable, but it's a question of how many people will die until that day occurs. lou: the violence, and morsi protesters in the street, and large scal
united states and nato agreeing to deploy patriot weapons and to thwart an aso-called by assad. the missile systems to be positioned near the syria. his staff denies that and estimates if they were deploy troops, it requires 75,000 of the troops in a full ground invasionn order seize the chemical weapon stockpile. fox news confirming they were not ordered to draft the consideration of such a mission. secretary of state clinton is nonetheless talking very tough calling for assad to step down as...
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now says it will intervene if assad uses chemical weapons but does this remind you of iraq or both two thousand and three will take a look at the similarities in these cases and ask if intervention is inevitable. and backed by congressional demand but against white house objections stricter sanctions on iran as part of the revamped and v.a. bill coming up a look at what these new measures and tale and whether they really are nonviolent. it's monday december third four pm in washington d.c. i'm christine for you're watching our tape while much of the mainstream media cycles last week were mired in chatter about u.n. ambassador susan rice and the possibility she may be considered to take over as secretary of state once hillary clinton leaves her post and most of what you probably heard sounded something like this. we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't yet bottom line and more disturbed now than i was before we will not allow a brilliant public servant record to be mug to cut off her her consideration to become secretary of state the repu
now says it will intervene if assad uses chemical weapons but does this remind you of iraq or both two thousand and three will take a look at the similarities in these cases and ask if intervention is inevitable. and backed by congressional demand but against white house objections stricter sanctions on iran as part of the revamped and v.a. bill coming up a look at what these new measures and tale and whether they really are nonviolent. it's monday december third four pm in washington d.c. i'm...
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now says it will intervene if assad uses chemical weapons but does this remind you of iraq all of two thousand and three we'll take a look at the similarities in these cases and ask if intervention is inevitable. susan rice is still being dragged through the mud for her inaccurate statements on the benghazi attack all of this in the quest for the next secretary of state but given her history and more importantly her investment there's more to susan rice than meets the eye had on our t.v. sets the u.n. ambassador and waves the mainstream media is not. and backed by congressional demand but against white house objections stricter sanctions on iran as part of the revamped n.d.a. coming up we'll look at what these new measures entailed and whether they really are nonviolent. it's monday december third eight pm in washington d.c. i'm christine and you're watching our t.v. starting off this hour with the latest news out of syria there are reports that syrian president bashar al assad might be preparing to use chemical weapons in his war torn country but the united states and its western all
now says it will intervene if assad uses chemical weapons but does this remind you of iraq all of two thousand and three we'll take a look at the similarities in these cases and ask if intervention is inevitable. susan rice is still being dragged through the mud for her inaccurate statements on the benghazi attack all of this in the quest for the next secretary of state but given her history and more importantly her investment there's more to susan rice than meets the eye had on our t.v. sets...
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her father says she thought the rebel fighters with us were assad's forces. despite his efforts to reassure her, she is still anxious, and with reason. salah was shot a checkpoint. the bullet was going to hit my daughter, he tells us, but i had just put my arm around her. she just 4 years old blinks hard. yes, she ended up drenched from her father's blood. as gunfire rings out again, her father takes away the bullet casings she's collected. nearby a woman who doesn't want to be filmed takes me aside. sometimes i want to die rather than live like this, she whispers. arwa damon, cnn, aleppo. right. perfection is in the details. ♪ get to holiday fun faster with pillsbury cookie dough. humans -- sometimes life trips us up. and sometimes, we trip ourselves up, but that's okay. at liberty mutual insurance we can "untrip" you as you go through your life with personalized policies and discounts when you need them most. just call... and speak with a licensed representative about saving on your policy when you get married, move into a new house... [crash!] or add a c
her father says she thought the rebel fighters with us were assad's forces. despite his efforts to reassure her, she is still anxious, and with reason. salah was shot a checkpoint. the bullet was going to hit my daughter, he tells us, but i had just put my arm around her. she just 4 years old blinks hard. yes, she ended up drenched from her father's blood. as gunfire rings out again, her father takes away the bullet casings she's collected. nearby a woman who doesn't want to be filmed takes me...
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war torn country both the united states and its western allies have warned the syrian government that assad will quote be held accountable if his forces use those weapons against the rebels fighting his government this is also the story being told to the american people that syria's stockpile of chemical weapons is dangerous and could be deadly does this sound familiar well if so it could be because you heard very similar talk a decade ago in the lead up to war with iraq. the danger to our country is growing. iraqi regime possesses biological. and chemical weapons weapons of mass destruction weapons of mass destruction weapons of mass destruction every statement i make today is backed up by sources solid sources these are not assertions we're giving you are facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence a lot of questioning on solid intelligence is regarded today as one of the biggest media fails in history and yet there is a possibility we are seeing something very similar with syria that this alleged movement of chemical weapons could mean the west can and should get involved this was
war torn country both the united states and its western allies have warned the syrian government that assad will quote be held accountable if his forces use those weapons against the rebels fighting his government this is also the story being told to the american people that syria's stockpile of chemical weapons is dangerous and could be deadly does this sound familiar well if so it could be because you heard very similar talk a decade ago in the lead up to war with iraq. the danger to our...
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it is ugly now because of assad. it could get ugly after. >> rose: because we don't know what is coming exactly? >> see, this is the thing that i often would talk about and maybe, maybe it is another reason it was a good time to leave, is because i became over the years, i spent most of my career in cia trying to forecast what people would do, and how things would turn out and when it comes to saying what is going to happen, we have every reason to be very modest about our abilities to do that. because the truth is, we can monitor weapons, we can monitor movements of military forces, but the decision to use them or how to use them is something that often is a mystery to us. and sometimes because the protagonist himself doesn't know walt he is going to do. so i have -- i became very cautious and, again, it may have been one of the reasons i decided to leave, i became very cautious about the use of military force, because the consequences are so unpredictable. maybe it will be a small reaction, but maybe not. and then
it is ugly now because of assad. it could get ugly after. >> rose: because we don't know what is coming exactly? >> see, this is the thing that i often would talk about and maybe, maybe it is another reason it was a good time to leave, is because i became over the years, i spent most of my career in cia trying to forecast what people would do, and how things would turn out and when it comes to saying what is going to happen, we have every reason to be very modest about our abilities...
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the moral hesitancy assad may have about using them. >> regardless of what happens to al assad, we had this threat, this problem, not only to us, but to our allies in the region. turkey, jordan, israel, all worry if assad falls, there must be a plan to secure these chemical weapon sites, but we should tell our viewers that u.s. militaries understood this problem and have been planning and work wg allies over the region over the course of the last 12 months. they have been planning for it. >> thank you very much. both of you. "outfront" next, a 20-year veteran of the navy accused tonight of being a spy. why officials think he was leaking crucial secrets to the russians and as two states prepare to -- sir richard bransens tells us why the war on drugs has been an utter failure. [ male announcer ] introducing... a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copays as low as a dollar through a preferred network pharmacy like walgreens -- where you'll find 8,000 convenient locations. best of all, this pla
the moral hesitancy assad may have about using them. >> regardless of what happens to al assad, we had this threat, this problem, not only to us, but to our allies in the region. turkey, jordan, israel, all worry if assad falls, there must be a plan to secure these chemical weapon sites, but we should tell our viewers that u.s. militaries understood this problem and have been planning and work wg allies over the region over the course of the last 12 months. they have been planning for it....
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the moral hesitancy assad may have about using them. >> regardless of what happens to al assad, we had this threat, this problem, not only to us, but to our allies in the region. turkey, jordan, israel, all worry if assad falls, there must be a plan to secure these chemical weapon sites, but we should tell our viewers that u.s. militaries understood this problem and have been planning and work wg allies over the region over the course of the last 12 months. they have been planning for it. >> thank you very much. both of you. "outfront" next, a 20-year veteran of the navy accused tonight of being a spy. why officials think he was leaking crucial secrets to the track u.s. submarines. now, this document basically not only outlined the procedures you would use to do that, but the actual technology that you would need to track u.s. submarines. it's very serious because us navy officials will often tell us where surface ships and carriers are located around the world at any particular moment. they almost never discuss where the subs are. that is classified information. now, the zimt says tha
the moral hesitancy assad may have about using them. >> regardless of what happens to al assad, we had this threat, this problem, not only to us, but to our allies in the region. turkey, jordan, israel, all worry if assad falls, there must be a plan to secure these chemical weapon sites, but we should tell our viewers that u.s. militaries understood this problem and have been planning and work wg allies over the region over the course of the last 12 months. they have been planning for it....
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they managed to clear all the villages around the base of assad loyalists, of assad fighters. they then positioned snipers around the base, preventing, they tell us, from regime helicopters from bringing in supplies to this unit. they were forced then to air drop supplies to the unit, and they would often miss the target and the supplies would end into opposition hands. and when they were weak enough, they moved in. they say they captured a treasure trove of weapons from this location. heavy machine guns, ak-47s, but most importantly of all anti-aircraft missiles. they say they found hundreds of them even though they're not all functioning. video shows stacks of metal box boxes. at this point, rthe regime hat military advantage, but many tell us the balance is beginning to ever so slightly shift. >> is there a hard sense, you're there on the ground in northern syria, that one of these sides, the regime or the opposition has the upper hand right now where you are in northern syria? >> the rebels are slowly, slowly gaining ground. but at this point in time the regime has the adv
they managed to clear all the villages around the base of assad loyalists, of assad fighters. they then positioned snipers around the base, preventing, they tell us, from regime helicopters from bringing in supplies to this unit. they were forced then to air drop supplies to the unit, and they would often miss the target and the supplies would end into opposition hands. and when they were weak enough, they moved in. they say they captured a treasure trove of weapons from this location. heavy...
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and it looks like russia's stedfast support for assad could be nearing its end. the influential russian lawmaker who is tight with vladimir putin said, quote, we have shared and do share the opinion that the existing government in syria should carry out its functions, but time has shown its task is beyond its strength. back in washington, a spokesman for secretary clinton warned of the perils that the syrian people would confront even in a post assad era. >> we know these groups, al-qaeda and others, troy to take advantage of the environment assad has fostered over the last year or so. it is important that they -- that the syrian people get a government out of all of this that is representative of their desires and as separations. they -- aspirations. they don't want to trade one for the other. >> that has been a concern for u.s. policy makers in all of these mideast countries affected by the arab spring. >> what secretary clinton and most others are hoping is president assad will step down. any indication that might happen? >> judging on the pro nuns ments of hi
and it looks like russia's stedfast support for assad could be nearing its end. the influential russian lawmaker who is tight with vladimir putin said, quote, we have shared and do share the opinion that the existing government in syria should carry out its functions, but time has shown its task is beyond its strength. back in washington, a spokesman for secretary clinton warned of the perils that the syrian people would confront even in a post assad era. >> we know these groups, al-qaeda...
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the assad regime acknowledged it does possess chemical weapons. it did so, did acknowledge this for the first time just over the summer and syria can deliver its chemical weapons by bomb, by missile or by rocket. syria also is suspected of having produced chemical weapons since the 1980s. so a lot to watch here out of syria. in moments we'll talk a little bit more about the syrian regime's crackdown against its own people but also a broader topic about al qaeda using syria as a place to train their operatives to spread terror around the region. that will be one of the topics we'll be talking about in less than 10 minutes. jon: right now breaking news in the fort hood shooting rampage trial. a military court is removing the judge from the case saying he was not impartial. rick folbaum has those new developments for us. >> reporter: we're tracking this from the newsroom. nidal hasan will get a new judge, says that judge he had, colonel gregory gross has not been impartial towards the mass murder suspect. the court saying colonel gross's order that h
the assad regime acknowledged it does possess chemical weapons. it did so, did acknowledge this for the first time just over the summer and syria can deliver its chemical weapons by bomb, by missile or by rocket. syria also is suspected of having produced chemical weapons since the 1980s. so a lot to watch here out of syria. in moments we'll talk a little bit more about the syrian regime's crackdown against its own people but also a broader topic about al qaeda using syria as a place to train...
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assad's fall is looking imminent. syrian officials accuse the west of looking for a pretext to intervene. no international flights have been allowed to land at damascus airport for a week. >>shepard: what is the pentagon doing? are they preparing for the possible of intervention? >>reporter: they are actively planning and expect substantial fighting. there is increasing evidence that some of the shoulder-fired missiles that the c.i.a. was trying to track down in libya, and f-16's may have migrated to syria bringing down a helicopter and fighter jet last week. reports that save gas has been loaded on to canisters, the united states set up a task force at a base north of jordan, in amman, that included 150 special forces working with the military of jordan to secure assad's chemical weapons. >> the world is watching. the president of the united states has made very clear there will be consequences if the assad regime makes a tell mistake by using the chemical weapons on their own people. >>reporter: the pentagon is awar
assad's fall is looking imminent. syrian officials accuse the west of looking for a pretext to intervene. no international flights have been allowed to land at damascus airport for a week. >>shepard: what is the pentagon doing? are they preparing for the possible of intervention? >>reporter: they are actively planning and expect substantial fighting. there is increasing evidence that some of the shoulder-fired missiles that the c.i.a. was trying to track down in libya, and f-16's...
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enters the war in syria appears to be up to the dictator bashar al-assad. on monday, david martin reported that the assad regime had given orders to prepare chemical weapons for possible use to put down the revolt that has been raging in that country for more than a year and a half. president obama said the use of these weapons of mass destruction would be totally unacceptable. well, tonight, david has new intelligence to report, and we have three stories on the breaking news in syria. we'll start with martin at the pentagon. >> reporter: u.s. intelligence so far has not detected any signs syria is loading chemical weapons on to aircraft, but defense secretary panetta said it appears the embattled assad regime is preparing to do just that. >> there is no question that we remain very concerned, very concerned that as the opposition advances, in particular on damascus, that the regime might very well consider the use of chemical weapons. >> reporter: monitoring of syrian basis like this one has pekd up evidence engineers have loaded the chemicals which combin
enters the war in syria appears to be up to the dictator bashar al-assad. on monday, david martin reported that the assad regime had given orders to prepare chemical weapons for possible use to put down the revolt that has been raging in that country for more than a year and a half. president obama said the use of these weapons of mass destruction would be totally unacceptable. well, tonight, david has new intelligence to report, and we have three stories on the breaking news in syria. we'll...
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jonathan, quite a debate about the asylum question for assad. and the question is the question is whether president bashar assad has taken the final decision to as he once said live and die in syria. if he does die, it's most likely to be, of course, at the hands of the rebels when they make their final push into the center of damascus, a push which most experts believe is coming. all whether president assad might now be willing to or trying to seek asylum in some friendly country. that would probably boil down to cuba, ecuador venezuela or russia. u.n. secretary general was asked about the asylum question today he did not seem to favor the idea. listen. >> the united nations must not allow any impunity whoever commits gross violation of human rights must be held accountable and should be brought to justice. >> that sentiment was echoed by officials at the u.s. state department who said there has to be, quote: accountability. the counter argument to that is that perhaps anything that gets assad out of syria and stops the slaughter of civilians m
jonathan, quite a debate about the asylum question for assad. and the question is the question is whether president bashar assad has taken the final decision to as he once said live and die in syria. if he does die, it's most likely to be, of course, at the hands of the rebels when they make their final push into the center of damascus, a push which most experts believe is coming. all whether president assad might now be willing to or trying to seek asylum in some friendly country. that would...
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whether assad falls or assad contracts. one of the things they've done is build up the so-called paramilitaries, these isle of wight militias that used to be like games and now have become almost like storm troopers for the regime. with the help of hezbollah to turn into to much worse.bushed militia with the help of the cuts force as well. so they .., but then they looked to other possibilities. i syria began to fragment into various regions controlled by different militias, they have looked to alliances of convenience with groups such as the pkk, the courtesy and working party. they've used the pkk in order to pressure turkey against interference in syria. but this relationship opens the door for future collaboration whereby the ukrainians could create various islands of influence with a number of militias. so you have in the coastal region with a 70 predominate essentially a 70% for iranian and russian support. since i've started thinking about these things, there have been developments there, too because the rebels have
whether assad falls or assad contracts. one of the things they've done is build up the so-called paramilitaries, these isle of wight militias that used to be like games and now have become almost like storm troopers for the regime. with the help of hezbollah to turn into to much worse.bushed militia with the help of the cuts force as well. so they .., but then they looked to other possibilities. i syria began to fragment into various regions controlled by different militias, they have looked to...
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one thing they fear is that assad may try to expand the conflict. that is there are shells going into turkey, turkey has responded in kind. if you creato talkheh i don't say, off multifront war with forces in refugee spilling across into turkey. iran getting drawn into it more heavily than they are now. in this chaos this would allow the theory would go allow for assad to survive everybody longer in some corner of the country as the whole region starts to explode. that's one of the major fears of u.s. policymakers. >> rose: it it also feeds into this larger question in terms of sunni/shi'a within the arab world and you have -- not arab states like iran, a shiite country, and you've got qatar and saudi arabia and you've got turkey and other countries looking like there is a clear sunni presence coming together. >> that's right. my colleague had a very good analysis last week reporting on this and the big concern of course in recent years has been a shi'a crescent with iran and others. now it's looking more like you have a resurgent sunni movement her
one thing they fear is that assad may try to expand the conflict. that is there are shells going into turkey, turkey has responded in kind. if you creato talkheh i don't say, off multifront war with forces in refugee spilling across into turkey. iran getting drawn into it more heavily than they are now. in this chaos this would allow the theory would go allow for assad to survive everybody longer in some corner of the country as the whole region starts to explode. that's one of the major fears...
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and all it would take is the final order from syrian president assad. as the fighting grows more intense and syrian rebels close in on damascus, the syrian regime has turned very desperate. u.s. officials tell nbc news the syrian military has now loaded the pre cursor for bombs, that could be dropped from dozens of fighter bombers. this week, u.s. intelligence detected a flurry of activity here, near homes. today, while u.s. officials confirm the precursor chemicals are loaded, they must still be mixed together to create the deadly gas. the alarm shook the world, including president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton issued strong warnings to syria's president assad, there would be strong consequences if he used chemical weapons. >> they would lose any sort of backing they had with china and russia, in terms of blocking the vote. >> reporter: the chemical mix is devastating. iraq's saddam used it in 1988. u.s. officials stress tonight that as of now these weapons remain in the depots have not been loaded on to any planes, and that president as
and all it would take is the final order from syrian president assad. as the fighting grows more intense and syrian rebels close in on damascus, the syrian regime has turned very desperate. u.s. officials tell nbc news the syrian military has now loaded the pre cursor for bombs, that could be dropped from dozens of fighter bombers. this week, u.s. intelligence detected a flurry of activity here, near homes. today, while u.s. officials confirm the precursor chemicals are loaded, they must still...
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if anything, i think assad may be a prisoner of his security establishment. i don't think he will be pushed aside by his aides. >> when do the nato forces and nato troops come in? it has to happen. >> i don't think they're going to go in on the ground. i think we're going to see patriot missiles in turkey. we may see other help, intelligence assistance for the rebels. we're not going to see nato troops on the ground. >> it's going to be an interesting few weeks, i think. >>> let's move quickly to egypt. a lot of difficult scenarios there developing, with president morsi, apparently, showing a few traits of mubarak, with the executive orders he's giving himself. did he need to do this? and what is the fallout going to be here? the big protests all through cairo are the eruptions in egypt. >> he blew it. first of all, the grab for power from the judges. he compounded that today, by allowing his people, the muslim brotherhood to go out and crack heads. several people appear to have been killed. he's made things worse for himself. but that said, this is the first
if anything, i think assad may be a prisoner of his security establishment. i don't think he will be pushed aside by his aides. >> when do the nato forces and nato troops come in? it has to happen. >> i don't think they're going to go in on the ground. i think we're going to see patriot missiles in turkey. we may see other help, intelligence assistance for the rebels. we're not going to see nato troops on the ground. >> it's going to be an interesting few weeks, i think....
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the big question is, will president assad stay and fight? will he seek asylum? >>jonathan: the turks and russians, they are saying they are working on what they call "new ideas to bring an end to the ongoing 20--month-old civil war." they have nut given any ideas or details what those ideas might be but it will revolve around whether president assad has decided he going to live and die in syria and die most likely at the hands of the rebels or whether he can be persuaded to say asylum but that has the u.n. secretary-general having misgivings giving a man who has murdered 40,000 of his own people to give him retirement in a safe and friendly country. >> the united nations must not allow any impunity after gross violation of human rights. he must be held accountable and brought to justice>>jonathan: tf the argument is that any kind of solution that would persuade assad to stand down and end the slaughter of all of those syrian civilians might, actually, be worth considering. >>trace: what do we know of the reports that rebels are trying to get their act together i
the big question is, will president assad stay and fight? will he seek asylum? >>jonathan: the turks and russians, they are saying they are working on what they call "new ideas to bring an end to the ongoing 20--month-old civil war." they have nut given any ideas or details what those ideas might be but it will revolve around whether president assad has decided he going to live and die in syria and die most likely at the hands of the rebels or whether he can be persuaded to say...
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plus, is al assad planning his escape. and encouragement from democrats that want hillary to run for president in 2016. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin this hour with the fiscal cliff. it's only a phone call, but it's the most notable movement we have seen. the tax hikes take effect in only 27 days. our senior congressional kor respondespo -- >> today, president obama and john boehner spoke by phone about the fiscal cliff negotiations, but there is no progress. they still have a stand off over the rates. the president still wants to raise rates on the top 2% of americans. the speaker is not moving on that position. this comes on the same day that secretary geithner made it clear in language they have not used before, just how far they're willing to go in the administration to stand by those terms. >> is the administration prepared today go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there is no agreement without those rates going up on the top 2%. and they all get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of
plus, is al assad planning his escape. and encouragement from democrats that want hillary to run for president in 2016. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin this hour with the fiscal cliff. it's only a phone call, but it's the most notable movement we have seen. the tax hikes take effect in only 27 days. our senior congressional kor respondespo -- >> today, president obama and john boehner spoke by phone about the fiscal cliff negotiations, but...
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the deputy foreign minister said he's 100% sure that assad will never, ever leave syria. lou: thank you very much. chief washington correspondent, and joining us now, fox news middle east and teror analyst, fellow at the washington institute for near east policy. gentlemen, thank you for being here. beginning withou, just received word that the president smoke with morsi today talking about the number of deaths and concern about the result of the monstrations. this is now a region that seems to be of behaving in ways in which this adnistration could not have anticipated did not a year ago, six months ago. your thoughts on what's happening now? >> well, ii's happening right now is balance of force, of demonstrations between the morsi regime, which is still trying to assert itself, the gun to influence the army, bu did not complete the job, so the army is not completely under the hands of morsi, but, on the other hand, a dynamic opposition uniting against morsi and has been early on the responsible for the urising in egypt against mubarak, replaced with the brotherhood, and
the deputy foreign minister said he's 100% sure that assad will never, ever leave syria. lou: thank you very much. chief washington correspondent, and joining us now, fox news middle east and teror analyst, fellow at the washington institute for near east policy. gentlemen, thank you for being here. beginning withou, just received word that the president smoke with morsi today talking about the number of deaths and concern about the result of the monstrations. this is now a region that seems to...
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you have been to aleppo, where the assad regime has a chemical weapons plant. let's get perspective from the ground and start with the regime. what is it saying about this new u.s. intelligence and now new warnings from the united states all the way up to president obama about a red line on the use of chemical weapons? >> well, the regime has historically denied that it would use any sort of chemical weapons against its own population, but that is something of an empty promise, at least from the perspective of everyone we have been speaking to about this. many of those fighters that we talked on the ground do say they do believe the greater the stranglehold they have on regime forces in the city of aleppo grows, the greater the likelihood is that in a desperate attempt to somehow either regain control or wreak mass havoc on the population, the regime would not hesitate when it comes to employing these types of weapons. and of course, when it does come to chemical warfare, there is very little if anything anyone here can do to protect themselves against that. >>
you have been to aleppo, where the assad regime has a chemical weapons plant. let's get perspective from the ground and start with the regime. what is it saying about this new u.s. intelligence and now new warnings from the united states all the way up to president obama about a red line on the use of chemical weapons? >> well, the regime has historically denied that it would use any sort of chemical weapons against its own population, but that is something of an empty promise, at least...
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what happens the day after assad leaves? he's going to go feet first was going to leave on his own, but he's going to go. after he goes, we need a plan to make sure there's a follow-on force. learn from republican mistakes in iraq. we didn't have enough troops. i told president bush renewed 180,000 troops to secure this place the person who said that was fired. he happened to be read. i'm here to say we don't have a follow-on force quickly to get involved after assad this will be all to pay in the region. if the president believes we need to use force to secure the chemical weapons were stop them from being utilized to kill thousands more, we stand with them and i'm willing to do resolution on the floor of the senate, seeking congressional authorization to protect us against assad using chemical weapons against his own people and protecting us that it was necessary to military force. final thought, you can see this coming for a very long time. leading from behind is not working. saying you could do in iraq with a light footp
what happens the day after assad leaves? he's going to go feet first was going to leave on his own, but he's going to go. after he goes, we need a plan to make sure there's a follow-on force. learn from republican mistakes in iraq. we didn't have enough troops. i told president bush renewed 180,000 troops to secure this place the person who said that was fired. he happened to be read. i'm here to say we don't have a follow-on force quickly to get involved after assad this will be all to pay in...
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is there an exit strategy for assad? though the u.n. secretary of general said yesterday the world should not let him seek asylum senator kerry told andrea mitchell he disagrees. >> it's in our security interests to be able to get a transition that is controlled and that is negotiated and that is orderly because the alternative to that is you could have 200,000, 500,000 people killed. >> if syria crosses the red line in chemical weapons what will the u.s. do? middle east expert jeffrey goldberg joins us on the escalating violence across the region in a scoop that some people missed that he had. we'll expose it here. plus an msnbc news exclusive. afghan president hamid karzai blames the u.s. and nato forces for what he says is growing insecurity in his country. what he told our own reporter about the future of the relationship between the two countries and he weighs in on the petraeus scandal. we'll be live in kabul next. but first a look ahead at the president's schedule. we have a photo op today on the fiscal cliff. he heads over to fa
is there an exit strategy for assad? though the u.n. secretary of general said yesterday the world should not let him seek asylum senator kerry told andrea mitchell he disagrees. >> it's in our security interests to be able to get a transition that is controlled and that is negotiated and that is orderly because the alternative to that is you could have 200,000, 500,000 people killed. >> if syria crosses the red line in chemical weapons what will the u.s. do? middle east expert...
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he said he had a message to assad and those around him. is that a message about future potential war crimes prosecutions or is it a message trying to encourage those around him to maybe get out of town, defect? >> well, i think it is -- it's sort of both to those around him, you know. you can stand with him and run the risk of being prosecuted or killed in a conflict, or you can turn but i think it's also a message not simply to the syrians around assad, i think it is also a subtler message to the iranian regime that is clearly continuing to support assad with weapons and training and advice, though i think it's both to those immediately around him and to iran. >> bob, given the iraq history, there could be some skepticism starts talking about intelligence, weapons of mass destruction. but there are multiple sources of intelligence in this indication. how serious is this threat, the fact they're actually possibly mixing the chemical agents? >> oh, this is deadly serious. on iraq, a lot of it was hypothesis before we went in 2003, as the bu
he said he had a message to assad and those around him. is that a message about future potential war crimes prosecutions or is it a message trying to encourage those around him to maybe get out of town, defect? >> well, i think it is -- it's sort of both to those around him, you know. you can stand with him and run the risk of being prosecuted or killed in a conflict, or you can turn but i think it's also a message not simply to the syrians around assad, i think it is also a subtler...
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their home destroyed by the assad regime and living in a roman byre. among many families in byzantine city. abandoned around 600 a.d. reoccupied in 2012 a.d. living in the remnants of an ancient fallen civilization they get to listen to the ongoing collapse of their own. >> ( translated ): what am i? a terrorist? my little child? may god curse assad's soul. >> ( translated ): he killed his own people. before we say, "yes, bashar." we don't want him. a president doesn't kill his own people. >> reporter: even here they've been bombed. rebels are struggling to answer the rebel threat. driving between villages. we heard the chatter of gunfire- - gunship prowled for targets. a week ago this refugee camp was a target for a mig jet. the regime would stoop to anything. back in roman ruins, there is despair. no reason for hope. they feel ignored and forgotten by the outside world. any faith they have left is in nothing earthly. >> ifill: next, the decline of coral reefs and the connections with rising levels of carbon dioxide. new reports this week show there w
their home destroyed by the assad regime and living in a roman byre. among many families in byzantine city. abandoned around 600 a.d. reoccupied in 2012 a.d. living in the remnants of an ancient fallen civilization they get to listen to the ongoing collapse of their own. >> ( translated ): what am i? a terrorist? my little child? may god curse assad's soul. >> ( translated ): he killed his own people. before we say, "yes, bashar." we don't want him. a president doesn't...
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yet another international military engagement in the middle east and what will become of syria if the assad regime falls to discuss this and more i'm joined by author and investigative journalist webster tarpley thanks for coming on thank you so you know your errors story and that you've been studying politics for decades but you're also an economist and you just wrote a book about multiple things that if they do the economy and you propose something different than what we've been hearing about this fiscal cliff is this doomsday impending fiscal cliff what do you think yes it's actually very simple if you look at the u.s. debate about the so-called fiscal cliff fiscal cliff is really a fraud it's a it's a term invented by helicopter ben bernanke of the federal reserve so not a good thing it's designed to stampede people here's the main idea you don't need to have genocidal austerity by cutting social security medicare medicaid unemployment benefits food stamps in particular there's one huge flow of wealth that has not ever been taxed in recent years it's called wall street if you look at th
yet another international military engagement in the middle east and what will become of syria if the assad regime falls to discuss this and more i'm joined by author and investigative journalist webster tarpley thanks for coming on thank you so you know your errors story and that you've been studying politics for decades but you're also an economist and you just wrote a book about multiple things that if they do the economy and you propose something different than what we've been hearing about...
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bashar al-assad is a key link. efforts to support moderate forces opposing him within syria should be considered now and considered seriously. i have recently called for a more robust u.s. response to the crisis in syria. i believe that a political transition to a government that reflects the will of the syrian people is also in the core security interest of united states and the region. moreover, this change would align with our values of supporting the democratic process and the basic rights and freedom that should be enjoyed by all people, regardless of religion, ethnicity, or gender. over the course of the past 20 months, the aside regime has unleashed a barrage of unspeakable -- assad regime has unleashed a barrage of unspeakable terror across the country. more than 40,000 syrians have been killed, countless have been injured. refugees have surged into neighboring turkey, jordan, lebanon, and iraq, taxing the limits of those countries. assad's escalation of violence has reached a point where fighter jets have
bashar al-assad is a key link. efforts to support moderate forces opposing him within syria should be considered now and considered seriously. i have recently called for a more robust u.s. response to the crisis in syria. i believe that a political transition to a government that reflects the will of the syrian people is also in the core security interest of united states and the region. moreover, this change would align with our values of supporting the democratic process and the basic rights...
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. >> the rebels gain on assad raising fears he might use chemical weapons. that was enough to frighten the russians into talking with hillary clinton about a political transition. >> the united states stands with the syrian people in insisting that any transition process re -- result in a unified democratic syria in which all citizens are represented. the future of this kind cannot possibly include assad. >> a tragic turn of events in london. the nurse that first transferred that prank call to duchess catherine is found dead. david axelrod shaves it all off on "morning joe." >> joe scarborough. >> are your friends at the white house watching? >> laughing, i'm sure. >> laughing. >> his sacrifice is paying off a bet after he and his wife susan raised more than $1 million for epilepsy research, a disorder his daughter suffers from. >> your dollars are going to that research, that's worth a mustache and a lot more. >> and a picture is worth a thousand words. guess what news the president was getting when he took this call. we'll bring you the latest from the whi
. >> the rebels gain on assad raising fears he might use chemical weapons. that was enough to frighten the russians into talking with hillary clinton about a political transition. >> the united states stands with the syrian people in insisting that any transition process re -- result in a unified democratic syria in which all citizens are represented. the future of this kind cannot possibly include assad. >> a tragic turn of events in london. the nurse that first transferred...